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By Fletcher
Buy 4'x8'x1/4" Luan plywood, it's light and use the smoothest surface inside.
Make your box 16"x16" for less wasted material.
Use 2"x2" (actual dimensions 1.5"x1.5") lumber inside all corners and screw the plywood to it with 1" drywall screws.
Wrap the box at all plywood joints with more 2"x2"s outside, so it can easily be picked up with a forklift.
Glue everything but one end cap.
Shippers are lazy and can't be expected to lift that box by hand!!!!
Let us know what you end up doing and how it worked.
Oh and get stinkin high at the Mighty Ming.

By Fly Sonora Wings
1. Mingus is a USHPA regulated site. It is one of the few sites in Arizona that AZHPA (the Arizona club) decided to keep insured under the "new" USHPA system. This has nothing to do with any tandem instruction going on there, and to my knowledge there are no tandem instructors with the required PASA certification to fly tandems from Mingus. But Mingus and a few other sites in Arizona were required to have insurance by either the Forest Service or the City of Phoenix, in order to honor previous AZHPA agreements/contracts, and therefor for the time being the club was forced to keep them as named insured sites with USHPA.

Ironically, under the new USHPA system that was supposed to promote safety, USHPA instructors are not even allowed to offer any mentorship or anything that could be perceived as instruction to any current or previous students at many awesome sites like Mingus without the expensive PASA site-specific certification and RRRG insurance. In my personal opinion, this is one of the many failures of the new USHPA policies, but it is all a subject for another debate... back to the fly-in.

2. While Red's advice about o2 is sound, a few of the details about regulations are a little off. If you want to get picky about it, the FAA requires o2 for "aircraft", for the minimum flight crew (pilots), for more than 30 minutes above 12,500, or for any time above 14,000, and o2 is required for everyone on the plane when above 15,000. However, since we operate under FAR part 103 and fly "ultralight vehicles", the rest of the FAR's written for "aircraft" including the rules about o2 do not apply to us, and part 103 has no specific requirement for o2. So there is no legal requirement for o2 when flying a hang glider.

That being said, Mingus is a high mountain site with potential for high climbs. To have a good time at Mingus you need to understand all of the aspects of flying big mountain sites, including but not limited to the appropriate use of o2. The "appropriate use" of o2 will be very different for different people on different days. And in my opinion, in no way will the lack of o2 prevent you from having epic flights at Mingus. High altitude launching and landing skills are much more likely to be a determining factor of your experience flying Mingus. :mrgreen:

My personal experience (exactly 1 flight at Mingus): Upon arriving at launch it was immediately clear to me Mingus is a diamond in the rough. It must be one of the best mountain sites in the southwest US, not just from the potential of the flying, but the fact that AZHPA maintains a fully private for-pilots-only campground, at launch, inside US forest service, at a potentially high impact area, with a private bathroom, on top of a mountain, fully set aside for ONLY pilots to camp and fly from. Let that sink in!

So in summary; go to the Mingus fly-in, all are welcome, bring o2 if you've got it, fly safe, have a good time, and SUPPORT AZHPA TO KEEP MINGUS OPEN. Mingus is awesome!
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By TjW
I love the campsite, but if you're tent camping and sleeping on the ground, it's very rocky. A thin pad or Thermarest is not enough. I made a thing out of cloth and plywood specifically for the camping here, but one of those really thick air mattresses might do the trick.
By brokenstrings

This trip is taking shape. I will be there from Thursday 8-30 through Sunday 9-9. I am looking for air hungry locals who wish to seek out flight on a daily basis. I'm also willing to drive to other sites to get the best conditions. Name is Eric and i can be reached at 814-591-3577.

I have quotes to ship my glider both ways and have secured a Wills Wing box. I got a rental car booked and will pack in my one size fits all ski racks in the glider box along with a suction cup hood style mount.

I have talked to Bill Comstock and Tom Galvin who have given me lots of good info about the flying. Thanks Guys!

I will post similar on the AZ Hang Gliding Paragliding Assn Facebook.
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By TomGalvin
I gave brokenstrings pointers on who to talk to. I have not flown Mingus yet. I only met Ole at the Cottonwood airport LZ once. I am planning to be there for the fly-in. It looks like an awesome site, with the craters not far away( I have flown there :mosh: ) The following Mingus video inspires me.
By once&future
That video is definitely inspiring (and drool worthy). Repeated topping off at 18K, Yow. I've only flown that route once and never got above about 10.5 (and only made it to around Mormon Lake - a good 25-30 miles short of the pilot in the video). Still one of my favorite flying memories.
By brokenstrings

If there’s one thing that would be useful for this trip it’s a glider ride to the shiping depot in Phoenix after I depart. I fly out on Sunday September 9th. Problem is that the depot is closed on weekends. This would cause me to lose a 2 flight days (Friday and Saturday). Any help???

Thanks Eric
By Flyrigid
Eric, if no other option turns up, leave your glider with me in central Phoenix when you depart and I will get it to the terminal (maybe- what kind of shape is it in? Bwahaha!)

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