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Guys: I remember reading a book about flying about 23 years ago. Well, in this book the author said: That we don't know how? But Birds can locate thermals with ease.

My Questions to you guys is: Do we now know just how say a Buzzard can locate a thermal?

Do they have a visual perception, that we human's do not have?

I just would like to know what say a hawk has in his bag of aerial equipment that we human's fail to have.

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By blindrodie
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Seems I remember it has something to do with the "hairs" in it's nose...

8)
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By miraclepieco
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Birds, with their amazingly acute vision, can literally see the bugs and dust being carried upward by a thermal.
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By Sky_Walker
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!00 years ago Giovanni Vitali discovered the Paratympanic Organ in the inner ears of birds. It is now commonly known as the Vitali organ. The Vitali organ is sensitive to very small changes in barometric pressure so essentially birds have the sensor of a vario in their inner ear ....

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/natu ... ense-organ
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By miraclepieco
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I throw the baloney flag. Everyone is over-complicating this. Birds can literally see dust and bugs being carried upward by the thermal.
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By dave hopkins
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I think they use combinations of organs. Hawks and some vultures have incredible vision and can probably see`bugs and what not. As one video just showed their flutter rate is about a 100 frames a sec., ours is 15. Along with broader color vision they things we would need super high tech equipment to see. Some vultures have a super sense of smell so they can smell a thermal from a far. Some just follow Me :wink: Feathers being hollow should act like a sensitive barometric. We can feel barometric changes if we pay attention. I think that how some experienced pilots know when to launch into a thermal. If everyone start farting it's time to launch :lol:
I don't think anyone has done a real scientific research on the matter. It just not that important to the world at large.
Of course many of us would like to have an instrument that would spot thermals from a mile.
By Roadrunner
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Well, i think that flying my Hang-Glider falls right in there along with my aspirations to play good, proper Golf. For It think that if I could core through a Bird while we were both working a Thermal. When I can thermal-Up through say a Buzzard, Will be just about the sane Time I will be able to shoot a Round of Golf, using 18 strokes to play 18 holes.
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By CAL
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Sky_Walker wrote:!00 years ago Giovanni Vitali discovered the Paratympanic Organ in the inner ears of birds. It is now commonly known as the Vitali organ. The Vitali organ is sensitive to very small changes in barometric pressure so essentially birds have the sensor of a vario in their inner ear ....

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/natu ... ense-organ
you got it Sky_Walker birds have built in varios located in their ears, that is why if we want to fly like them we need to fly with varios :thumbsup:
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By Lucky_Chevy
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Not all birds can soar and of the ones that can the most powerful thing I can think of is Evolution. All the thermalling birds that don't thermal well don't reproduce and ultimately starve.

Life and death is a powerful motivator. Avian superpowers aside they also fly thousands of hours per year and are acutely in tune with what there wings are doing. Most can change wing geometry literally on the fly to suit changing conditions.

When all else fails they can flap and power themselves to a better spot or even land in a tree. Birds are perfectly adapted for what they do or they would not exist. I don't believe you will find one thing that is their secret to success.
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By peanuts
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it seems that a lot of the soaring birds are carnivorous, so if you wanna soar, eat meat. :thumbsup:
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By Sky_Walker
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I throw the baloney flag. Everyone is over-complicating this. Birds can literally see dust and bugs being carried upward by the thermal.
Do you have any peer reviewed scientific journals to support your baloney flag ?

Vitali was nominated for the Noble Prize in 1934 for his work on the inner ears of birds what exactly are your qualifications ?

I know I'm being a d--- but I have lost all patience with how common it is for people to think their opinions are better than hard science and peer reviewed research.

I'll go ahead and apologize for my dickishness as I don't really want any hard feelings but seriously read the link in my original post it is fasinating stuff ...

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