- Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:16 am
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(Last edit: actually I think the AIM gives the clearest interpretation, if not legally binding. See post # 20 http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.ph ... 093#207093 )
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Speaking of the FAR's and part 103 in particular-...
I found a webpage ( http://www.flytandem.com/airspace.htm ) that suggests it actually is ok for ultralights (including us) to fly through the class-E-to-surface rectangular keyways (extensions) that project outwards from some (class D or higher) airports. These class E areas have no altitude limit and I always thought Part 103 was interpreted to mean we were supposed to stay out of them (which sets up inconvenient barriers in many places). Futhermore I believe these Class-E-to-surface areas are usually set up to protect instrument traffic which could be present at any hour regardless of whether the tower is active or not.
Can anyone fill us in more on this?
(Edit-- Joe G., who was mentioned in the above webpage, emailed me that that was not any kind of official FAA interpretation. Good to know.)
Examples of these rectangular-Class E-to-surface keyways ("extensions") projecting from a Class D airport: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSLE , http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMFR
Example of an airport with Class-E-to-surface airspace with no class D airspace: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KONP
These class-E-to-surface areas are shown by dashed magenta lines; this is different from the shaded magenta shapes which are simply variations in the floor of the Class E airspace (700 or 1200 AGL).
What if any of this class-E-to-surface airspace can we enter without the FAA frowning at us?
Just curious... Steve
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Speaking of the FAR's and part 103 in particular-...
I found a webpage ( http://www.flytandem.com/airspace.htm ) that suggests it actually is ok for ultralights (including us) to fly through the class-E-to-surface rectangular keyways (extensions) that project outwards from some (class D or higher) airports. These class E areas have no altitude limit and I always thought Part 103 was interpreted to mean we were supposed to stay out of them (which sets up inconvenient barriers in many places). Futhermore I believe these Class-E-to-surface areas are usually set up to protect instrument traffic which could be present at any hour regardless of whether the tower is active or not.
Can anyone fill us in more on this?
(Edit-- Joe G., who was mentioned in the above webpage, emailed me that that was not any kind of official FAA interpretation. Good to know.)
Examples of these rectangular-Class E-to-surface keyways ("extensions") projecting from a Class D airport: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSLE , http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMFR
Example of an airport with Class-E-to-surface airspace with no class D airspace: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KONP
These class-E-to-surface areas are shown by dashed magenta lines; this is different from the shaded magenta shapes which are simply variations in the floor of the Class E airspace (700 or 1200 AGL).
What if any of this class-E-to-surface airspace can we enter without the FAA frowning at us?
Just curious... Steve
Last edited by aeroexperiments on Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:18 pm, edited 11 times in total.