- Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:19 am
#406071
"It would be the LA County Dept of Beaches and Harbor's rules for Dockweiler Beach hang gliding. They can close it down entirely, as they did for many years when no hang gliding, under any circumstances, was allowed there."
"There just isn't a great outpouring of public anger when hang gliding is outlawed somewhere.:
I entirely agree on both points, this is why we need cooperation and integrity. Unfortunately I've encountered very little of either with the clubs.
The logic seems to go something like:
1) You have to do what we say.
2) You can't fly without our permission.
3) If you fly without our permission you risk losing it for *EVERYBODY*
4) No, *YOU* can't fly, this is *OUR* site!
5) How dare you question me!
The problem with the above logic is that once trust is broken, there is very little reason for independent pilots to care what clubs have to say. Questioning their rules can result in one of a few things:
1) I find I can fly without their permission.
2) I figure out who I need to talk to in order to fly without their permission.
3) I find that the club is filling an unfortunate political/bureaucratic need and I leave it alone.
Regardless, there is no risk to me or any independent pilot for asking these questions. There is risk for the local clubs, so (IMHO) it would behoove them to learn to share and be honest.
"There just isn't a great outpouring of public anger when hang gliding is outlawed somewhere.:
I entirely agree on both points, this is why we need cooperation and integrity. Unfortunately I've encountered very little of either with the clubs.
The logic seems to go something like:
1) You have to do what we say.
2) You can't fly without our permission.
3) If you fly without our permission you risk losing it for *EVERYBODY*
4) No, *YOU* can't fly, this is *OUR* site!
5) How dare you question me!
The problem with the above logic is that once trust is broken, there is very little reason for independent pilots to care what clubs have to say. Questioning their rules can result in one of a few things:
1) I find I can fly without their permission.
2) I figure out who I need to talk to in order to fly without their permission.
3) I find that the club is filling an unfortunate political/bureaucratic need and I leave it alone.
Regardless, there is no risk to me or any independent pilot for asking these questions. There is risk for the local clubs, so (IMHO) it would behoove them to learn to share and be honest.