I don’t believe your question is really germane to the thread’s topic. With that thought in mind I will circle back to the central theme.JB wrote:Avoiding the question?
It was that anti communist red scare President Abraham Lincoln who made the connection of “our fathers” and “under God” in the Gettysburg Address:mgforbes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:41 pmNot to mention the fact that the "under god" thing was put in during the red scare of the late '50s, when "godless communism" was a thing the congresscritters were afraid of. It's nothing to do with the founders of our republic. In fact, the whole pledge is an early 20th century invention by moralist types.
None of which is remotely relevant to the question of whether managers of public lands have the right and duty to control access and activities on those lands. Law and custom says they do, and USHPA has far more immediate things to work on than to take on a quixotic challenge to the entire government's land management policies.
Back to your regularly scheduled idealistic ranting among yourselves.
Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address was the inspiration and impetus for the change of the Pledge of Allegiance to include "under God". Feel free to look it up.Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. . . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
So why did I mention the reference in my post? I cited the quote for the historic continuity. The Pledge of Allegiance including "under God" is this country’s current official pledge and has been for over sixty four years and reflects the belief of the founding fathers as stated in the Declaration of Independence that our unalienable Rights are endowed to all men by their Creator. The pledge is to the Republic for which it stands including those declarations by our founding fathers, inclusive of the Constitution and the Amendments. The connection is the Gettysburg Address by Abraham Lincoln, the inspiration and impetus.
The passage of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 was just four years after the addition of "under God" to the Pledge by congress. As I have stated, the language congress used in the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 was clear, congress was not granting any right, but recognized and declared the right of every citizen to the use of the airspace, the public domain. The congress of the 1950’s clearly had an understanding of the founding fathers’ political belief system of the origins of human rights.
So when we as citizens make the Pledge of Allegiance:
We are pledging to stand up and defend our fellow human being’s God given rights including our fellow flyer’s right to the airspace as recognized and declared by the 85th Congress. Just because they do not belong to "our club" or "organization" does not mean they do not have the right to fly in the public's airspace.I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Membership in a National Free Flight Organization should not be based on coercion, but motivation for membership should be based on mutual benefits, protecting, and promoting the sport including protecting everyone’s declared right to the airspace.
Be Safe. Save Part 103.