jlatorre wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:05 pm You may be the only person I've heard of that made that drastic a transition. For me it was bunny hill, 200', 600', one or two 1000', and finally 4000'. I'm glad for all those transitional steps, because that's where I really learned to plan turns and set up approaches.Back in the late 80's my sister went from Jockeys Ridge (80ft sand dune) to Woodstock in VA. (2000 ft Mountain slot launch). Was the program at Kitty Hawk Kites before towing. But you did have to be able to soar the dune before you went to the mountains. That really only left the approach as it takes pretty good pilot skills to soar that dune.....